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Water Chiller Install

Discussion in 'Grow Box Q&A' started by McLovin, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. SerenityReef

    SerenityReef The Tinkerer

    Personally I would run a chiller unless your natural water temp sits above 65° and under 70°.

    It's a safety factor for times like heat waves, preventive measure against root rot, and adds extra control once you get some experience with it.
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  2. donna becker

    donna becker New Member

    ok I'm so new to this and my bloom box isn't even here yet...but why do we need a water chiller?
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  3. Gzb107

    Gzb107 Active Member

    To control res temps, so you dont get root rot
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  4. Captchaos420

    Captchaos420 Flick Dagger Bum Bag

    I switched to soil because I found it was better quality/and quantity. But the chiller is to control temperature like Gzb 106 said
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  5. McLovin

    McLovin Free Old Hippie

    Interesting...this goes against everything I've read and done.
  6. James Marsden

    James Marsden Well-Known Member

    You switched to soil for what? Think maybe you just couldn't figure out the hydro business.
  7. Gzb107

    Gzb107 Active Member

    Personally I think hydro is a pain the ass. Hydro does grow faster bud but it has its share of problems. Only downside to soil is the plants don’t grow as fast
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  8. James Marsden

    James Marsden Well-Known Member

    And the pathogen that go with it, and the difficulty to rebound from health concerns, and bugs and dirt everywhere. Once you learn how to use hydro it's actually easier and more efficient than soil by huge margins.
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  9. McLovin

    McLovin Free Old Hippie

    The hard part is getting dialed in. I see new growers give up too easily for whatever reason before becoming proficient. My investment wouldn't allow me to not try and master it.
  10. Gzb107

    Gzb107 Active Member

    Here is the problem with hydro in regards to the res situation with BC bloom box. There is no segregation between plants roots and if you get Pythium all your plants get it. If plant roots isolated then hydro is nit bad. With soil it’s not so because of the segregation between plant containers. Soil does have pathogens but I am not saying you should dig up dirty from the backyard. No you go with some type of roots organic mix and add some benes / compost brew when you water your plants. And if you are using super soil then all you do is add benes and PH balance RO and you are good to go. For me it’s not giving up on hydro, but increasing my efficiency with little work you have to do.
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  11. James Marsden

    James Marsden Well-Known Member

    And hiding it from the house hold as well. When you try to be sneaky you got bit. When you didnt heed the advice that was given to you, you got root. Had nothing to do with one plants roots it was because you didn't follow directions. Hydro is by far the most efficient method of cultivation by far. Being efficient at a lower level if botany doesn't make it better. Giving up on a superior way of cultivation because you were too afraid to ask for help or hiding things so you can't follow proper ratios isn't a fault in your means of horticulture. If it were less efficient and more difficulty it wouldn't be the number one way world wide to cultivate.
  12. Captchaos420

    Captchaos420 Flick Dagger Bum Bag

    Personal taste big man. But I’m sure you “think” you know it all don’t you. I think maybe you should post less and pay attention more.
  13. Captchaos420

    Captchaos420 Flick Dagger Bum Bag

    To each his own. I personally find the taste and quality better.
  14. McLovin

    McLovin Free Old Hippie

    I don't doubt it with the experience you had. Hydro isn't for everybody.
  15. James Marsden

    James Marsden Well-Known Member

    Easy big guy. No one's heir to fight you. The boxes were designed for hydro and that's why we heir are strong for hydro. That's not to say they're arnt soil guys around.
    If you don't like my commentary please don't let the door hit you on the way out. This is a talk free zone so please try not to cyber bully people.
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  16. SaltyDawg13

    SaltyDawg13 Member

    McLovin, how did you rewire from matenlock to 3 prong plug outlets? Like this idea as I am about to add chiller and pump (and maybe BlueLab Guardian Monitor). Any instructions and pics you could provide would be great.
  17. McLovin

    McLovin Free Old Hippie

    First a disclaimer, my box has been out of warranty for years. It has paid for itself many times over and if anything "blows up", I would buy a new one tomorrow. That said, I do not advocate anyone doing this if they are not an electrician and are unfamiliar with positive, negative and neutral.

    It became inefficient having to change out a pump or fan due to the matelocks. I'm not sure what everyone else does with them. Do you guys buy replacement fans and pumps with them on? Anyway, with power cord to the box removed, I snipped the wires going to the matelocks. Then with a flathead screwdriver, carefully removed the matelocks. They just snap in their housing. Then I attached the female end of an extension cord to the snipped wires using the orange wire nuts and electrical tape.

    In this overhead pic you can get an idea of what I did. All matelocks in the BB have been removed.

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    What I have going on here is the fan is plugged in (against the back side of receptacle). On the other side of the receptacle I installed an on/off switch for the chiller pump so I can simply turn the pump off when doing nute changes. I also had to attach a 3 prong adapter to accommodate the pump.
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    The purpose of those matelocks is to prevent plugs from coming out. These plugs are tight and not much chance of them falling out.
  18. SaltyDawg13

    SaltyDawg13 Member

    When adding BlueLab pump, has anyone attached to power inside the box or powered from outside? How was meter attached inside the box?
    Just purchased JBJ 1/15 chiller and no connections included so ordering now so I can in stall chiller and have ph pump and need to install. Trying to find everything at local Home Depo but having troubles. Any assistance greatly appreciated.
  19. SaltyDawg13

    SaltyDawg13 Member

    Also, for ph pump, what is ph down solution prepped? So confused.....
  20. Farmer J

    Farmer J @onelunggrows

    pH down is very potent. I use Advanced Nutrients pH down. I learned to add 1ml of pH down (per gallon of nute solution) to drop the pH by one unit. It's not exactly perfect but gets me pretty close. If it only needs to go down a few decimals I just add a drop of pH down and test, then repeat until pH is somewhere between 5.5 and 5.8
    I hope that this helps, if it is confusing maybe someone else can explain it better.
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